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Info-Hams Digest            Thu,  2 Jun 94       Volume 94 : Issue  608

Today's Topics:
            18 June, Durham, NC: Commercial Radio Op Exams
                         ARLD032 DXCC update
                          Evergreen Intertie
                  Fancy testing some Mac software ?
                        Ham Radio few problem
                     IPS Monthly Report -  May 94
                   NEEDED: FCC Compliant FM Xmitter
                PRB-1 access and approaching city hall

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Date: 2 Jun 1994 03:57:29 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.duke.edu!concert!inxs.concert.net!taco.cc.ncsu.edu!csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: 18 June, Durham, NC: Commercial Radio Op Exams
To: [e-mail]

         Commercial Radio Operator License Examinations

         Durham, NC  --  18 June 94  --  9:30  am

         SW Branch -- Durham Public Library:  3605 Shannon Road

         Licenses attainable:

         Marine Radio Operator Permit --  Element  1

         General Radiotelephone Operator -- Elements 1 & 3

         GMDSS Radio Maintainer -- Elements 1, 3 & 9

         (probably**) GMDSS Radio Operator -- Elements 1 & 7

         **we believe that element 7 will be available for testing


         For more info or to reserve an exam seat, contact:

         Steve Modena [phone]  or  Terry Murphy [phone]

         ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~

         Commercial Radio Operator License Examinations:

         Durham , NC  --  18  June  94 --  9:30 am

         Who is offering it:  W5YI-affiliated National Radio Examiners

         Though walk-ins will be allowed, seating is limited.
         To be assured a seat, contact:

         Steve Modena [phone]   or  Terry Murphy [phone]


         What will be offered:
         Examinations on elements 1, 3, 9, and probably 7

         Time:  09:30 AM
         Location:  SW Branch of the Durham Public Library (next page)
         What to bring:  Cash for the fees, id, non-programable hand
                         calculators and good preparation

         * * *Personal identification:  Bring at least TWO forms of
                                        positive identification * * *

         WARNING:  Anything that even resembles cheating or an attempt to
         cheat will be reported *directly* to the FCC, as per regulations

         How does it work:  very similar to the Amateur Exams,
                            but with certain exceptions

              1.  Any or all of the currently offered elements available
                  may be taken
              2. Elements may be taken in any order
              3. Each element passed sucessfully will be recorded on a
                 Proof-of-ing certificate
              4. If you qualify for a license, you may prepare an FCC  Form
                 756, or defer.
              5. If you fail an element, there will no opportunity to retry
                 during the same session.
              6. The amount of time allowed for the exams will be
                 reasonable, but not unlimited
              7.  We reserve the unequivocal right to limit seating: first
                  come, first served!
              8. Fees charged follow this NRE rule:

                 "At this time, NRE requires a fixed $35 fee from each
                 candidate for the administration of any and all
                 examination elements required for each commercial license
                 per sitting.  If any elements are failed, no license which
                 required the failed element would be issued and the
                 applicant would have to schedule another exam session and
                 pay another fee to obtain the desired license."


         FEES MUST BE PAID IN CASH ONLY -- no checks, no exceptions.

         We are absolutely obligated to be certain that you are who you say
         you are: make sure that the identification that you present will
         pass muster--otherwise you will not be allowed to take an exam.

         ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~  ~


         Commercial Radio Operator License Examinations:
         SW Branch Durham Public Library: 3605 Shannon Rd.
         Durham , NC  --  28 May 94

         Steve Modena  AB4EL  [phone]     or
                       Terry Murphy  AB4VJ  [phone]


         How To Get There:

         Talk-in: we will listen for this Durham repeater: 144.85/145.45

         These instructions work if you approach South Square Mall via
         15-501 BYPASS.

         You are in the vicinity of South Square when you can see the lone
         skyscraper with the "needle" tower.

         Whether you  are coming from I-40, headed north on 15-501
         BYPASS...  or coming from I-85, headed south on 15-501 BYPASS,
         there will be a sign indicating "Keep Left for 15-501 BUSINESS --
         South Square."

         Exiting from either direction of 15-501 BYPASS leads to the same
         spot.

         Passing under an overpass, there is a traffic light at a cross
         road named "Westgate"...  and the Lone Star restaurant is ahead at
         2 o'clock.

         Go straight ahead.

         Midway to the next traffic light, there is a sign:  "Next right to
         Auto Drive."

         At the light, there is a big Circuit City store is on the left...
         and the only turn possible is to the right, onto Shannon Road.

         Turn right at this light.

         The first traffic light on Shannon Rd. is at Auto Drive and you
         are in the midst of South Square mall: continue straight ahead.

         The next traffic light on Shannon Rd. is the 3900 block of
         University Drive:  go straight ahead.

         After passing the Shannon Manor apartment complex, the next
         intersection has a stop sign and is called "MLK Jr.":  go straight
         ahead.

         Heading up a small hill and reaching the crest just before the
         curve, you are looking straight at the  Durham Library--Southwest
         Branch...  a brick building set on the left side of  and below the
         level of the road.

         The exam site address is 3605 Shannon Road.

         The exam room is visible through a very large window to the right
         of the building entrance.

--
73/Steve Modena/Internet:  [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 01 Jun 1994 17:15:47 EDT
From: psinntp!arrl.org![e-mail]
Subject: ARLD032 DXCC update
To: [e-mail]

SB DX @ ARL $ARLD032
ARLD032 DXCC update

ZCZC AE30
QST de W1AW
DX Bulletin 32  ARLD032

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Date: Wed, 01 Jun 1994 20:58:00 PST
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!psgrain!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!mala.bc.ca!epaus!ham![e-mail]
Subject: Evergreen Intertie
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Joseph T. Hart) writes:

>    Please help. I need information about the Evergreen Intertie, a 2m
>net that covers several Western states (N. Calif., Oregon, Washington,
>Idaho, Montana), plus British Columbia and Alberta. The only place I've
>found this repeater network described is in the ARRL publication Your VHF
>Companion, but no repeater frequencies are listed. The Evergreen Intertie
>is not listed in the 1993-94 ARRL Reeater Directory, nor in the Western
>States Repeater Directory.
>    Could someone please supply a contact person, address, and
>telephone number? I will be traveling to the NW next week and moving
>to the NW in two weeks.
>                Thanks for helping, Joe (KE6GRS)
>
Hi, Joe. I was just reading the news - and listening to a net on the
intertie when I came across your posting. For more info on the Evergreen
Intertie, send a Self Addresses Stamped Envelope - #10 business size, to
Jack Williams, 4303 Maltby Rd, Bothell WA 98012. I have no phone number.

73, Bob.

[e-mail] (Robert Smits Ladysmith BC)

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Date: 1 Jun 1994 16:46:48 -0400
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!eff!news.kei.com!babbage.ece.uc.edu!ankh.iia.org!rtp.vnet.net!char2.vnet.net![e-mail]
Subject: Fancy testing some Mac software ?
To: [e-mail]

sean sharkey ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hello All,
: I have just finished a HyperCard Stack that will allow control of a Yaesu
: FT-747GX.
: I now need your help.
: I am looking for people that have a Macintosh and a FT-747GX
: (or perhaps any other Yaesu radio) who can help me beta test
: this stack.
: If you would like to help just let me have an e-mail or street
: address and I'll send you off a copy.
: Kind regards, Sean.

Sean,
    Have Mac(s), Yaesu arrives next week, will test.
David W. Barrow III, Stonewall Computer Center,
1894 Elm Drive - Town of Cedarburg
West Bend, WI 53095-9603
Ma Bell [phone]
Packet N9UNR@Wa9POV.#MKE.WI.USA.NA
Internet [e-mail]

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Date: 2 Jun 1994 03:29:08 GMT
From: koriel!newsworthy.West.Sun.COM!abyss.West.Sun.COM!spot![e-mail]
Subject: Ham Radio few problem
To: [e-mail]

In article [e-mail], [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
>
>[e-mail] (Roger Buffington) writes:
>
>> I can assure you that in Southern California we take as dim a view of
>> jammers as is done anywhere else. Fortunately, the problem is manageable
>> and the jammers are reasonably few.  T-hunting is big in our area, and
>> often if a jammer gets too out of hand he gets tracked down and
>> identified.  These creeps tend to lose their enthusiasm for jamming when
>> they know that others know who they are.
>
>In a recent conversation with a fellow ham out in CA, KD1NR, a
>fellow ham in this area, exchanged information regarding how we have
>caught a jammer with hard evidence and nobody will do anything about
>it. Apparently, from his conversation, it would appear that similar
>incidents occur on a regular basis out in CA, with even professional
>RF folks at NASA doing jammer hunting with $100k+ equipment, only to
>bag people and have nothing done at all about it.

It sounds like Mike is referring to a recent conversation between Tony
and myself.

For the record, the amateur we caught, which did involve a NASA
radio tech, was "tried" by the local amateur club.  He was "sentenced"
to a 1 month "suspension" of his transmitting privileges.  The amateur
was a 12 year old boy.  He asked the club to try him rather than report
him to the FCC, which we were quite ready to do, with considerable
evidence.  The FCC was never involved.  The boys parents later
prohibited him from using his radio after another questionable event,
and we haven't heard from him since.

Yes, the FCC is often slow in responding to interference complaints.  The
.435 repeater is rife with examples of spotty or non-extant enforcement.
At the same time, some people *are* being busted, and Richard Burton did
go back to jail for amateur radio jamming.

However, Roger is quite correct in pointing out the value of well-placed
peer pressure.

One evening, an unlicensed individual was operating on the air with a bogus
callsign.  It was not immediately clear that he was not licensed.  He
bragged about his place of employment having ham radios (Radio Shack) and
offered me a deep discount.  His poor practice led me to check his callsign;
I was not surprised to find it invalid. When I spoke with him, he was quite
recalcitrant, and the unlicensed operation ceased.  I guess he bragged to
too many hams, since someone contacted the manager of his store and he
was later fired.

One morning, a station was on the local repeater, obviously a young man,
signing with a WB6xxx call.  His obvious youth and naive operating manner
suggested he was not legit; a check of his call sign indicated it invalid.
I spoke with him on the air, mentioned his call did not appear to be current,
and he apologized and went away.  We haven't heard from him since.

>Perhaps your glasses are a little too rose colored, Roger?

Well, Roger *does* live in Southern California, and you *do* live
in Rhode Island, a little out of VHF/UHF range.  Roger's story
sounds reasonable to me.  Maybe your glasses are a little too
mud colored, Michael :-) ?

---
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j    | Views expressed here are    *
 * [phone]         | mine and do not necessarily    *
 * [e-mail]    | reflect those of my employer    *
 * This Extra supports the abolition of the 13 and 20 WPM tests *

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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 02:49:53 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sunic!trane.uninett.no!nac.no!ifi.uio.no!wabbit.cc.uow.edu.au!news.ci.com.au!metro!ipso![e-mail]
Subject: IPS Monthly Report -  May 94
To: [e-mail]

SUBJ: IPS MONTHLY REPORT - MAY 1994
ISSUED BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.

1.     SOLAR-GEOPHYSICAL INDICES
                 SOLAR  MAGNETIC      AUST
Day         10 cm flux   A-INDEX   T INDEX
May  01            075        25        27
May  02            076        41        -5
May  03            074        29        49
May  04            073        20        19
May  05            073        33        16
May  06            074        29        13
May  07            074        30        17
May  08            074        33        10
May  09            077        24       -10
May  10            080        24        11
May  11            082        25        22
May  12            087        12        15
May  13            089        08        22
May  14            090        19        36
May  15            091        28        44
May  16            091        26        33
May  17            095        14        41
May  18            094        20        48
May  19            091        15        48
May  20            090        07        44
May  21            088        05        46
May  22            085        08        39
May  23            081        10        41
May  24            078        25        51
May  25            074        24        49
May  26            071        11        38
May  27            070        05        25
May  28            070        21        15
May  29            069        33        10
May  30            069        35        23
May  31            069        28        17


              10 CM  FLUX  SUNSPOT    NUMBER  A  INDEX     AUST   FLARES
                                                          INDEX
                Monthly  Monthly    Yearly   Monthly     Monthly   >M1.0
Month           Average  Average   Average   Average     Average
May         94     79.8     18.2                21.5        27.5       0
April       94     79.0     16.7                21.0        34.7       0
March       94     90.5     31.7                17.5        36.9       0
February    94     99.5     35.9                22.5        38.0       2
January     94    115.0     58.8                12.4        60.2      11
December    93    104.9     49.4                10.4        56.4       8
November    93     95.8     34.8      41.0      11.7        50.0       3
October     93    100.2     55.4      44.7      11.6        31.3       3
September   93     86.3     21.7      48.2      12.3        33.6       2
August      93     93.7     42.0      52.1      11.0        48.7       1
July        93     99.0     57.3      54.4      10.6        59.6       4
June        93    109.4     49.1      55.8      13.0        62.6      13
May         93    112.4     61.2      59.6      11.0        64.3       5

IPS Predicted (Yearly Smoothed) Sunspot Numbers for December 1993-November 1994
Month         Dec  Jan  Feb  Mar  Apr  May  Jun  Jul  Aug  Sep  Oct  Nov
SSN          38.3 36.0 33.9 33.3 32.0 30.1 28.3 25.4 23.0 21.6 21.0 20.9
Latest T-Indices for IPS Advanced Stand-Alone Prediction System-(ASAPS)
Last update: April 1994 Solar-Geophysical Summary
Year    Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
1988     45  43  58  74  72  84  84  95 115 132 116 128
1989    147 164 135 140 141 157 162 149 143 159 164 152
1990    150 128 135 129 126 138 136 138 141 136 122 133
1991    142 176 172 164 136 118 141 128 136 131 121 130
1992    152 172 156 134  95  79  89  66  68  67  85  89
1993     75  78  80  65  63  63  55  47  34  31  37  58
1994    39* 37* 36* 35* 34* 31* 28* 26* 24* 22* 21* 19*
1995    18* 18* 17* 16* 15* 14* 14* 13* 12* 11* 11* 10*
1996    10*  9*  9*  8*  8*  8*  8*  9*  9* 10* 11* 12*
1997    13* 15* 17* 19* 21* 23* 26* 30* 33* 38* 43* 48*
Asterisk indicates predicted value.
For information concerning ASAPS for an IBM PC (or compatible) contact IPS.

The IPS Monthly T-index is derived from the observed monthly median values
of foF2 for each hour at up to 40 ionospheric stations worldwide.
These records become available from IPS stations in Australia very soon after
each month, but the majority are received up to one year later.
This means that the exact observed value of the monthly T-index is not
available until some months later.

The predicted smoothed monthly T-indices are computed by using a statistical
analysis of the observed monthly T-indices for all solar cycles since 1938.
The IPS T-indices may not be updated each month but only when sufficient new
data becomes available.
===============================================================================
2.     FLARES AND SHORT-WAVE FADEOUTS

All M flares with an energy greater than or equal to M1 are tabulated under
class M flares.
However, times of fade-outs are shown only for flares with an energy greater
than X-ray class M3.

DATE           CLASS M   CLASS X         FADEOUT POSSIBLE
                FLARES    FLARES      ON DAYLIGHT CIRCUIT
NO FLARES.

2.1     Comments on Solar Activity.
Solar activity continued at very low to low levels during May.
Little variation was observed in the daily 10cm flux values throughout the
month. A peak for the month of 95 occurred on 17 May, with a minimum value
of 69 recorded on 31 May.

The monthly sunspot number of 18.2 was the second lowest since the decline
of the cycle - April 1994 was the lowest. The most interesting feature
was the sequence of six days at the end of the month when the sun was without
spots at all. This is the longest such sequence yet observed in this declining
phase of the cycle. May is now the third month consecutive month with no
M class flares observed (the most recent M-class solar flare was observed on
February 27th).
===============================================================================
3.     GEOMAGNETIC DISTURBANCES              (for Learmonth, WA)
DATE                     COMMENTS

May 1-11                 The major pattern of recurrent geomagnetic activity
                         observed over the past 3-4 months continued during
             this interval. Active to minor storm levels were
             observed at times on May 1-3, 7-8 and 11, with
             unsettled to active levels recorded at other times
             over this period.

May 15                   Active to minor storm levels were observed, as part
                         of another long standing pattern of recurrent activity.

May 24-25                Active to minor storm periods observed in the northern
                         hemisphere, during this interval. Unsettled levels
             were observed at Learmonth.

May 28-31                Active to minor storm periods observed during this
                         interval. This activity is again the return of the
             major pattern of recurrent geomagnetic activity
                         which was last observed May 1-11. Active to minor
             storm periods are expected to continue until June 8.


3.1     Comments on Geomagnetic Activity.
Lengthy periods of recurrent activity were observed during May.
The most disturbed days of the month were May 2 and 30, with an A indices of
41 and 35 respectively.  Recurrent activity began again on May 28 and is
currently in progress, and is expected to decline after June 8.

===============================================================================
4.     IONOSPHERIC DISTURBANCES              (for Sydney)

DATE                MUFs
May 2-3             Depressions of 30% were observed for most of May 2.
                    Enhancements of around 30% then followed for most of May 3.

May 4               Depressions of 30% were observed 10-14UT.

May 5               Depressions of 15-30% were observed 11-17UT.

May 6               Depressions of 15-30% were observed 04-07UT and 10-11UT.

May 8-10            Depressions of 15-30% were observed from 08/15UT - 09/07UT.
                    Depressions of 50% were observed 09/10-17UT, with
            depressions of 15-30% then observed until 10/03UT.

May 11              Depressions of 40% were observed 16-20UT.

May 28-31           Depressions of 15-20% were observed at times during this
                    interval. Spread F was observed during local night.



4.1     Comments on Ionospheric Conditions.
Depressions were observed during the first half of the month and towards
the end of the month. Spread F was commonly observed during local night-time
hours.  The most significant depressions were those observed May 8-10.
===============================================================================
5.     IPS WARNINGS AND ALERTS ISSUED


WARNINGS:
NO  ISSUE TIME  ISSUE DATE  BEGIN      END         COMMENTS
12  2337 UT     25 04 1994  29 04 1994 11 05 1994  Magnetic and Ionospheric
13  2313 UT     09 05 1994  12 05 1994 16 05 1994  Magnetic and Ionospheric
14  2333 UT     21 05 1994  24 05 1994 25 05 1994  Magnetic and Ionospheric
15  0234 UT     26 05 1994  28 05 1994 07 06 1994  Magnetic and Ionospheric


SIGNIFICANT EVENT SUMMARY NO             TIME           DATE       COMMENTS
NONE ISSUED.

SWF WARNING NO            TIME           DATE
NONE ISSUED.

ALERTS:
DATE OF ISSUE    TYPE OF ALERT
03 May                Magnetic
04 May                Magnetic
07 May                Magnetic
08 May                Magnetic
09 May                Magnetic
16 May                Magnetic
17 May                Magnetic
30 May                Magnetic
31 May                Magnetic

DATE           SWF BEGIN-END (UT)
NONE ISSUED.
--
IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney           |IPS Radio and Space Services
email: [e-mail]  fax: [phone]      |PO Box 5606
RWC Duty Forecaster   tel: [phone]      |West Chatswood NSW 2057
Recorded Message      tel: [phone]      |AUSTRALIA

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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 06:06:12 GMT
From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu![e-mail]
Subject: NEEDED: FCC Compliant FM Xmitter
To: [e-mail]

In article <2si9k8$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Timothy Andrew Hooper) writes:
>I am trying to get a community station off of the ground in rural Vermont,
>and finding the FCC regulations to be a serious stumbling block. Rather
>than pay several thousand for a new transmitter, or pay several thousand
>to get a homebrew transmimtter cleared by the FCC, I'd like to find someone
>(or some station) with an old low power (50 watts or so) transmitter that
>they would be willing to sell or give away (tax-deductible).

Andy (and anyone else who is interested): The place to find such an item
is on the newsgroup    rec.radio.broadcasting  - that's where a lot of
folks in the profession hang out. Some station owner or engineer might
have an older xmtr that would suit your needs.

The moderator of that newsgroup is very pro-community radio oriented.

Jeff NH6IL

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Date: 2 Jun 1994 01:19:02 -0400
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com![e-mail]
Subject: PRB-1 access and approaching city hall
To: [e-mail]

In article <2s5694$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Patrick J. Rundall) writes:

Pat: If you ask around the hams at Motorola, they'll tell you to call
Jim O'Connell,
W9WU for antenna advice in the Chicago area. Sometimes, I even get
calls
before you buy the house. Give me a call after the fact anyway.

Jim O'Connell, W9WU
ARRL Volunteer Counsel
Office  312 793-2380

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Date: (null)
From: (null)
SB DX ARL ARLD032
ARLD032 DXCC update

Documentation for the following operations has been received and
approved:

Call:       Operations Beginning (dd/mm/yy):

3D2MD       25/6/1991
3D2/ON4QM   24/9/1990
5W1JW       9/9/1991
A35DM       8/8/1990
C56/ON4QM   30/10/1989
DP0RIM      13/2/1993 (Special agreement call sign, counts for 5T5)
H44QM       30/10/1991
S92QM       16/3/1992
T20CB       9/9/1992
T30MD       24/9/1992
V63SB       24/3/1994
VS6/WA6TJM  2/6/1992
XT2TX       19/11/1993
YJ0AMD      1/10/1990
ZK1DM       25/9/1991
ZK2XX       29/10/1993
ZK3DM       9/8/1993
NNNN
/EX
0........#2,9,728-06331200 E71N         Compu$erve 2400........#2,9,548-93692400

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Date: 1 Jun 1994 20:28:52 -0700
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!news.claremont.edu!kaiwan.com![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2seid0$[e-mail]>, <2sfhir$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>du
Subject : Re: 440 in So. Cal.

Let me begin by making a retraction of something I didn't say.  I do not
propose evicting any existing, live-and-well, private/closed repeater
from 440 (as if it were possible).  However, the following proposal is
actually worthy of spending a few neurons to study...

Conway Yee ([e-mail]) wrote:
> A closed system uses up
> spectrum and deprives the vast majority of hams access to this
> spectrum.  Since this spectrum is meant as a "public park," there is
> something amiss when most of a band is populated by closed repeaters
> that are rarely in use.  By analogy, this is like taking Yellowstone
> and partitioning it out to individuals as private fiefdoms.  Highly
> active closed repeaters are not the problem as this indicates that the
> spectrum is in use.  Closed repeaters that are rarely in use waste
> spectrum.  Why can't such repeaters be shunted to a single frequency
> pair with different PL offsets?  Open repeaters are open to one and
> all so there should be plenty of users all the time.  Closed repeaters
> could share frequency pairs.  Thus, the interests of all can be well
> served.

This reminds me of the Motorola/GE trunked system sales pitches about
effective use.  Given the state of OUR art, I think this is as close as
we can hope to get.  Hmmmmmm   <fading off deep into thought>

--
____[ Robb Topolski ]___[ San Clemente, CA ]___[ [e-mail] ]____


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